In larvae, the dorsal seta sequentially in line lateral to seta 4 on abdominal segment I, its position relative to seta 4 is variable on segment VI but it is identifiable because of its very characteristic dorsal position on the posterolateral angle of the segment, usually proximal and dorsal to seta 6 (see seta 5-I-VII). In pupae, a dorsoposterior seta that along with seta 4 arises mesal to setal groups 1-2-3 and 6-9 on abdominal segment VI; in some cases, seta 5 and/or 4 are distinguishably grouped with one or more of the 1-2-3 group; posterior and usually longer than seta 4 (see seta 5-II-VII).